Line Scoring on Piston Seal of Hydraulic Cylinder
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09/26/2006, 11:08:36

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We are using 2 cylinders(80X56-150)to lift 3ton weight. The hydrualic operating pressure is 120 Bar. These cylinders are operated by one A,B connected to Tank proportional valve and a Pilot operated check valve and Flow divider. While we are operating these cylinders, we found creeping of cylinder after few operations. we opened and saw inside the cylinder, the piston seals were found deep line marks as if cut with sharp edge. Now I would like to know how the line mark came? No oil contamination or burs are found inside.Really i will be very thankful if anyone could answer my problem.






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Posted by: randykimball ®
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09/26/2006, 23:17:38

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If these are inside the cylinder, then the most likely reason for seal damage is foreign matter in the hydraulic fluid and system. If it is a new and fresh system you can bet that some foreign matter failed to be removed before or was deposited during assembly.

The other possibility is poor installation methods.





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Posted by: kugan ®

10/03/2006, 13:46:40

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Thank you Mr. RandyKimball. Well said. Hydraulic is like Surgical system ie. contamination sensitive one. What we are talking about is globally renowned cylinder manufacturer. we have asked for cylinder replacement. Let us keep our finger crossed for the new Hydralic cylinders.

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Posted by: Kugan ®

09/30/2006, 05:06:32

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Thank you Mr. RandyKimball for your answer. In your reply, you have indicated that the possibility of improper installation. Can you explain what kind of installation? Valves or Cylinder installation? If Cylinder installation, can you explain me how it makes line scoring.

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Posted by: randykimball ®
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10/02/2006, 23:26:54

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I would suspect the possibility of damage to the seals during installation.

This often happens because of:

handling on a dirty or rough surface,

from using improper tools,

forcing seals to fit into the cylinder without proper tapered rings,

over stretching during placement on the piston,

cleaning parts or seals in fluids that cause them damage,

..the most common problem I've seen is forcing seals without proper installation tools and jigs. Assembling hydraulic equipment should be treated as a surgical proceedure with similarly clean areas. Sometimes it is wise to slip seals over a tapered male plug sized to match the diameter of the piston on one end, and smaller than the ID of the seal on the other, using properly matched lubricant. After the seals are on the piston often it is wise to push them through a matched female taper ring with the small end the same size as the ID of the cylinder. For a properly matched lubricant ask your equipment manufacturer, usually you MUST use a lubricant during assembly.

During assembly I prefer to pretend I am doing brain surgery. I let nothing sharp near my seals and treat them as if the life of the hydraulic system depends on proper installation. .. it does!

I hope this helps.





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